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Naming the Defendant
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Work is sending me NoCal next month and I think I will start my filings, if I can swing down to Santa Clara.  Will I lose my backing funds in court costs and time?
In time, for sure. In court costs and punitive damages, I don't know.  My intention is to set up a template for backers to use , over and over again. 

Can't seem to find a record of any legal business that Christopher Price set up.

http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/
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(01-22-2016, 02:57 AM)BackerX Wrote: Work is sending me NoCal next month and I think I will start my filings, if I can swing down to Santa Clara.  Will I lose my backing funds in court costs and time?
In time, for sure. In court costs and punitive damages, I don't know.  My intention is to set up a template for backers to use , over and over again. 

Can't seem to find a record of any legal business that Christopher Price set up.

http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/

Search Terms: ConsoleOS, Console OS, Mobile Media Ventures

Tonight, tried the Santa Clara County Clerks office, with no joy.   Remembered something in one of the Backer Updates about filing with the State of California, so I reread Backer Update 25. 


Quote:Console, Inc.
This week, we submitted paperwork with the state of California to begin changing our name from Mobile Media Ventures, Inc to something... a bit more fitting. This isn't going to happen in a day, so please bear with us.
We like the name Console, Inc. and we've decided to adopt it. It really symbolizes what we're working hard on every day - both Console OS and iConsole™ hardware.
We have set up a great new corporate homepage that will guide us through this transition, Console.com.co
Please note that we're the same team, same company, same corporation... we're just gearing up to change our name to something a lot better.
http://www.consoleosripoff.com/showthrea...California

So, Console, Inc is what we are looking for...  Back to the State of CA 's  and Bingo: 

Quote:Entity Name: CONSOLE INC.
Entity Number: C3812125
Date Filed: 07/30/2015
Status: ACTIVE
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Entity Address: 3131 JAY STREET SUITE 210
Entity City, State, Zip: SANTA CLARA CA 95054
Agent for Service of Process: AL BURGIO
Agent Address: 3131 JAY STREET SUITE 210
Agent City, State, Zip: SANTA CLARA CA 95054

Sweet!  But wait, who is this new player, Al Burgio?
OMG.  There's the REAL Console, INC who is a real company, apparently successful.  I need to investigate them, as it looks like something I should know about, professionally. 

If you want a laugh, check out the team section at:  http://www.console.to/about-console/ . They are proud of their team! Contrast that with the Console.com.co about page.  What kind of spammy domain is that, anyways?  A .com sub-domain. Keep it Classy!   

And then there is the fake one, which this Wikipedia article describes. Gee, I wonder who the author of this wiki is?

   
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#3
Good find - I've noted this on the talk page and don't think there should be any objection to scrubbing the page and making it about it the real company.
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#4
(01-22-2016, 02:57 AM)BackerX Wrote: Work is sending me NoCal next month and I think I will start my filings, if I can swing down to Santa Clara.  Will I lose my backing funds in court costs and time?
In time, for sure. In court costs and punitive damages, I don't know.  My intention is to set up a template for backers to use , over and over again. 

Can't seem to find a record of any legal business that Christopher Price set up.

http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/

I would contact a lawyer or two. The product is software, and the location your purchased it was the internet, via Kickstarter. You may be able to file a small claims case locally.
Christopher Price Wrote:We're not going to ask our teammates in Europe to burn midnight oil to ship source code this weekend. Some cannot even leave their homes, and are under curfew. France is in a state of emergency.




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#5
(01-23-2016, 12:58 AM)BackerX Wrote:
(01-22-2016, 02:57 AM)BackerX Wrote: Work is sending me NoCal next month and I think I will start my filings, if I can swing down to Santa Clara.  Will I lose my backing funds in court costs and time?
In time, for sure. In court costs and punitive damages, I don't know.  My intention is to set up a template for backers to use , over and over again. 

Can't seem to find a record of any legal business that Christopher Price set up.

http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/

Search Terms: ConsoleOS, Console OS, Mobile Media Ventures

Tonight, tried the Santa Clara County Clerks office, with no joy.   Remembered something in one of the Backer Updates about filing with the State of California, so I reread Backer Update 25. 


Quote:Console, Inc.
This week, we submitted paperwork with the state of California to begin changing our name from Mobile Media Ventures, Inc to something... a bit more fitting. This isn't going to happen in a day, so please bear with us.
We like the name Console, Inc. and we've decided to adopt it. It really symbolizes what we're working hard on every day - both Console OS and iConsole™ hardware.
We have set up a great new corporate homepage that will guide us through this transition, Console.com.co
Please note that we're the same team, same company, same corporation... we're just gearing up to change our name to something a lot better.
http://www.consoleosripoff.com/showthrea...California

So, Console, Inc is what we are looking for...  Back to the State of CA 's  and Bingo: 

Quote:Entity Name: CONSOLE INC.
Entity Number: C3812125
Date Filed: 07/30/2015
Status: ACTIVE
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Entity Address: 3131 JAY STREET SUITE 210
Entity City, State, Zip: SANTA CLARA CA 95054
Agent for Service of Process: AL BURGIO
Agent Address: 3131 JAY STREET SUITE 210
Agent City, State, Zip: SANTA CLARA CA 95054

Sweet!  But wait, who is this new player, Al Burgio?
OMG.  There's the REAL Console, INC who is a real company, apparently successful.  I need to investigate them, as it looks like something I should know about, professionally. 

If you want a laugh, check out the team section at:  http://www.console.to/about-console/ . They are proud of their team! Contrast that with the Console.com.co about page.  What kind of spammy domain is that, anyways?  A .com sub-domain. Keep it Classy!   

And then there is the fake one, which this Wikipedia article describes. Gee, I wonder who the author of this wiki is?


think I went down this road once before....what it all came down to was..........

with the right lawyer you can skirt the law and NEVER get in trouble.....NOTICE all CPrices postings
say Console, Inc.

but when I was looking / searching this I believe I came across he may have or had a connection to them
somehow because of his phonenews company.......anyway good info..........

found it in your documents you provided.....

https://telecomnewsroom.com/2015/08/10/i...-platform/

also notice the domain at the bottom of the article is hokey like the one you referenced above....
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(01-23-2016, 09:25 AM)Mary Wrote: I would contact a lawyer or two. The product is software, and the location your purchased it was the internet, via Kickstarter. You may be able to file a small claims case locally.

I talked with a lawyer briefly.  He said that I could certainly file locally, but CP would have to be visiting my city/state in order for the small claims court to have jurisdiction.

(01-23-2016, 07:13 AM)roddie Wrote: Good find - I've noted this on the talk page and don't think there should be any objection to scrubbing the page and making it about it the real company.

Nice job!
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#7
It appears they are legitimate. I just found them searching for them here.
http://www.clerkrecordersearch.org/

I looked searched under the "Fictitious Business Names" section. To quote "Star Wars", it's an older code, sir, but it checks out.
Quote:Document Details   
 
If you need to view or purchase a copy of this filing, please see
staff at counters S, T, U, V or W for assistance.


Certificate Number:
608369
Filing Date:
08/ 24/ 2015
Filing Type:
F Fictitious Business Name
Expiration Date:
08/ 24/ 2020
Original FBN#:
NA
Abandoned Date:
NA
Abandoned FBN #:
NA
Proof of Publication on File:
NO






Business Name(s):
CONSOLE, INC.

Owner Name(s):
Withdrawn
FBN File#
MOBILE MEDIA VENTURES, INC.

 
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#8
Found it on http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/

Entity Name: MOBILE MEDIA VENTURES, INC.
Entity Number: C3316797
Date Filed: 07/06/2010
Status: ACTIVE
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Entity Address: 2905 STENDER WY STE 86D
Entity City, State, Zip: SANTA CLARA CA 95054
Agent for Service of Process: OMAIR FAROOQUI
Agent Address: 12 S FIRST ST STE 600
Agent City, State, Zip: SAN JOSE CA 95113
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(01-23-2016, 05:40 PM)hifihedgehog Wrote: It appears they are legitimate. I just found them searching for them here.
http://www.clerkrecordersearch.org/

I looked searched under the "Fictitious Business Names" section. To quote "Star Wars", it's an older code, sir, but it checks out.
Quote:Document Details   
 
If you need to view or purchase a copy of this filing, please see
staff at counters S, T, U, V or W for assistance.


Certificate Number:
608369
Filing Date:
08/ 24/ 2015
Filing Type:
F Fictitious Business Name
Expiration Date:
08/ 24/ 2020
Original FBN#:
NA
Abandoned Date:
NA
Abandoned FBN #:
NA
Proof of Publication on File:
NO






Business Name(s):
CONSOLE, INC.

Owner Name(s):
Withdrawn
FBN File#
MOBILE MEDIA VENTURES, INC.

 

so you can just use anothers name, pay less, and when anyone tries to
find you, they go in circles....cause they get the real business name....
kinda shifty don't ya think?????

Who really filed first, IIX(the Corporation) OR MMV,Inc.(the scammer) see below.........??????????????

Filed by (IIX)
Entity Name: CONSOLE INC.
Entity Number: C3812125
Date Filed: 07/30/2015
Status: ACTIVE
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Entity Address: 3131 JAY STREET SUITE 210
Entity City, State, Zip: SANTA CLARA CA 95054
Agent for Service of Process: AL BURGIO
Agent Address: 3131 JAY STREET SUITE 210
Agent City, State, Zip: SANTA CLARA CA 95054

DBA: CONSOLE, INC.
Certificate Number:
608369
Filing Date:
08/ 24/ 2015
Filing Type:
F Fictitious Business Name
Expiration Date:
08/ 24/ 2020
Original FBN#:
NA
Abandoned Date:
NA
Abandoned FBN #:
NA
Proof of Publication on File:
NO
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(01-23-2016, 06:17 PM)tbltsx86 Wrote:
(01-23-2016, 05:40 PM)hifihedgehog Wrote: It appears they are legitimate. I just found them searching for them here.
http://www.clerkrecordersearch.org/

I looked searched under the "Fictitious Business Names" section. To quote "Star Wars", it's an older code, sir, but it checks out.
Quote:Document Details   
 
If you need to view or purchase a copy of this filing, please see
staff at counters S, T, U, V or W for assistance.


Certificate Number:
608369
Filing Date:
08/ 24/ 2015
Filing Type:
F Fictitious Business Name
Expiration Date:
08/ 24/ 2020
Original FBN#:
NA
Abandoned Date:
NA
Abandoned FBN #:
NA
Proof of Publication on File:
NO






Business Name(s):
CONSOLE, INC.

Owner Name(s):
Withdrawn
FBN File#
MOBILE MEDIA VENTURES, INC.

 

so you can just use anothers name, pay less, and when anyone tries to
find you, they go in circles....cause they get the real business name....
kinda shifty don't ya think?????

Who really filed first, IIX(the Corporation) OR MMV,Inc.(the scammer) see below.........??????????????

Filed by (IIX)
Entity Name: CONSOLE INC.
Entity Number: C3812125
Date Filed: 07/30/2015
Status: ACTIVE
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Entity Address: 3131 JAY STREET SUITE 210
Entity City, State, Zip: SANTA CLARA CA 95054
Agent for Service of Process: AL BURGIO
Agent Address: 3131 JAY STREET SUITE 210
Agent City, State, Zip: SANTA CLARA CA 95054

DBA: CONSOLE, INC.
Certificate Number:
608369
Filing Date:
08/ 24/ 2015
Filing Type:
F Fictitious Business Name
Expiration Date:
08/ 24/ 2020
Original FBN#:
NA
Abandoned Date:
NA
Abandoned FBN #:
NA
Proof of Publication on File:
NO

Excellent observation and conclusion!

As usual, I see a glaring discrepancy in Price's priceless comments on Kickstarter. There, he said:
"You can search the d/b/a on the county web site. Our original d/b/a was filed properly, amended properly, and is valid 40 days prior to filing... which pre-dates IIX Corp's filing."

Tell me, how in the world does August 24th predate July 30th, hmm? Price must take us for fools. 

If we have our way, he is, minimally, not going to be laughing all the way to the bank in another scam against innocent individuals.
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